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		<title>Recommended: Utah CFP Class</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2010/01/24/utah-cfp-class/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I had the pleasure of spending 4 hours in a classroom with a few of my fellow GunBloggers &#8212; D.W.Drang from The ClueMeter, Phil and Scott from Random Nuclear Strikes and I attended Shawn Mahood&#8217;s Utah CFP Class. Utah is one of the most pro-2nd Amendment states in the country. They have worked hard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I had the pleasure of spending 4 hours in a classroom with a few of my fellow <a href="http://www.gunbloggers.com">GunBloggers</a> &#8212; D.W.Drang from <a href="http://thecluemeter.blogspot.com/">The ClueMeter</a>, Phil and Scott from <a href="http://www.softgreenglow.com/wp/">Random Nuclear Strikes</a> and I attended <a href="http://ncwguntraining.blogspot.com/">Shawn Mahood&#8217;s</a> <a href="http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/concealedfirearms.html">Utah CFP Class</a>. Utah is one of the most pro-2nd Amendment states in the country. They have worked hard to make their Concealed Firearm License accepted by as many states as possible (33 states recognize Utah resident permits, several of these will not honor a non-resident permit). The requirements for a non-resident Utah permit are that you need to take a class from an instructor certified by Utah, and be able to pass a background check. If you have a WA CPL then you should have no problems obtaining a Utah permit.</p>
<p>In the interest of full disclosure, not because the .gov tells me to but because its only fair to those reading, I won the chance to attend this class for free. I have attempted to make sure that did not affect my opinion of the class.<br />
<center><div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><img alt="" src="http://gallery.libertynews.org/d/2278-2/IMG_0471.JPG" title="Utah CFP Class" width="240"  /><p class="wp-caption-text">Shawn Mahood&#039;s Utah CFP Class</p></div></center><br />
The class was held at the Federal Way Wholesale Sports location, we had about 12 people in the class with varying backgrounds. Several were former military, some were former cops and the rest were normal folks like me. Mr. Mahood was an excellent speaker, easy to understand, dynamic and interesting to listen to. The class covered a wide range of subjects from the 4 rules, to firearms nomenclature to detailed Utah laws covering the use of deadly force. The material could be a bit dry at times, but Shawn did an good job of holding my interest and I didn&#8217;t find myself looking at the clock once. We took breaks every hour and spent some time getting to know our fellow classmates, including one guy who was present at the Tacoma Mall shooting. </p>
<p>I highly recommend this class for anyone interested in being able to exercise their rights in as many states as possible. I plan on doing some camping next summer and this will come in handy for those western states that don&#8217;t recognize my Washington CPL. Shawn&#8217;s company is also running a NRA Basic Pistol and WA Concealed Carry Basics classes in February. <a href="http://ncwguntraining.blogspot.com/">Check his website</a> for details.</p>
<p>Once you have completed the class and received the stamp on your application you have 1 year to submit it to Utah along with a passport photo, a fingerprint card, copy of your driver&#8217;s license and $65.25. They are supposed to process them within 60 days, but because of the popularity they are running at about 65 days or longer. Once you have your permit you can then legally carry in states that recognize non-resident Utah permits. You can use sites like <a href="http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/reciprocity.php">Carry Concealed</a> as a guide to which states recognize your new permit &#8212; but you really need to verify directly with the state, as well as familiarize yourself with that state&#8217;s laws. Internet sites are not always up to date. For example Nevada no longer recognizes the Utah permit, but Nebraska now does.</p>
<p>I tried to find something about the class to complain about. The only thing I can come up with is that it would have been nice to have some extra time for more ad-hoc discussions. I&#8217;d like to thank Shawn for the chance to take his class. I encourage you to tell your friends and family about this excellent resource that we have available to us. </p>
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		<title>Disarmed Societies are Sheep</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2009/06/18/disarmed-societies-are-sheep/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the UK they are discovering what happens when you disarm your population. According to this article muggins are now commonplace occurrences, with the thieves so bold that they will rob you in front of witnesses and so called security guards. 
&#8230;and I speak as someone whose car was carjacked and whose house was broken [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK they are discovering what happens when you disarm your population. According to <a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23708520-details/Being+mugged+is+now+part+of+my+everyday+life/article.do">this article</a> muggins are now commonplace occurrences, with the thieves so bold that they will rob you in front of witnesses and so called security guards. </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;and I speak as someone whose car was carjacked and whose house was broken into, with us in it, listening to his every stumble.</p>
<p>When my husband chased the robber down the street, the dutiful police officer advised us to install even more expensive security.
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<p>I can only hope that at some point our friends in England will realize the error of their ways and allow their subjects to arm and defend themselves as all people should be able to do.</p>
<p>H/T to <a href="http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2009/06/being-mugged-in-uk-is-now-part-of-my.html">John Lott</a></p>
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		<title>Kitsap Rifle &amp; Revolver will buy their land!</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2009/05/15/krrc-will-buy-their-land/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a number of months now the fate of the land that Kitsap Rifle and Revolver Club sits on has been uncertain. The land is leased from the WA State Department of Resources (DNR), and they recently announced that they want to swap the ownership with Kitsap County for some other property that the County [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a number of months now the fate of the land that <a href="http://www.gunsafety.org">Kitsap Rifle and Revolver Club</a> sits on has been uncertain. The land is leased from the WA State Department of Resources (DNR), and they recently announced that they want to swap the ownership with Kitsap County for some other property that the County owns. There was concern over how the County would administer the lease.</p>
<p>Back in March we packed the <a href="http://www.libertynews.org/2009/03/18/huge-turnout-for-land-use-hearing/">land use hearing</a>, and on Monday there was a meeting (that I missed) of the County Commissioners to vote on selling the land to KRRC outright. All of our pressure worked! Because today we have this:</p>
<p><img src="http://gunsafety.org/PictureOfTheWeek/Signing1.72dpi.jpg" alt="Signing KRRC Land Agreement" /></p>
<p>The Commissioners signed an agreement to sell the 72 acres that the club sits on to the club! No more lease hassles! </p>
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		<title>Huge Turnout for Land Use Hearing!</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2009/03/18/huge-turnout-for-land-use-hearing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got back from the hearing tonight and KRRC members turned out in force! I estimated at least 250 people there, the county commissioner&#8217;s room was packed and people were standing out in the halls.
The quick summary of the situation is that the land KRRC is on is leased from the DNR, who wants [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from the hearing tonight and <a href="http://www.gunsafety.org">KRRC</a> members turned out in force! I estimated at least 250 people there, the county commissioner&#8217;s room was packed and people were standing out in the halls.</p>
<p>The quick summary of the situation is that the land KRRC is on is leased from the DNR, who wants to swap the land with Kitsap County for some other nearby land. The Lease would then be transferred to the County, which has a spotty track record with upholding leases.</p>
<p>There were lots of good questions for the State and County officials there. Questions like &#8220;why wasn&#8217;t KRRC told about this proposal until just this month?&#8221; and &#8220;why has shooting been left out of the county&#8217;s proposed land use plans&#8221;. The last one is especially telling, given that the club has been there since 1928 and by some accounts the area has been used for recreational shooting since the late 1870&#8217;s &#8212; before Washington even became a state.</p>
<p>The KRRC executive committee is standing their ground on their insistence that there be a legally binding contract ensuring the continued existence of the club before they will support the proposed land swap.</p>
<p>In other words we don&#8217;t trust our government, at the State or County level, to do the right thing, unless we have it as a legally binding document. </p>
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		<title>Scoutten says no Boomershoot Coverage on Shooting USA</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2009/03/11/scoutten-says-no-boomershoot-coverage/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I picked up on this over at Smallest Minority. He posted a question to the Shooting USA forum over on AR15.com asking if they were going to cover the BoomerShoot event that Joe Huffman puts on every year.
Scoutten&#8217;s reply was essentially that he doesn&#8217;t want to put those kinds of events on TV because it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picked up on this over at <a href="http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2009/03/well-im-disappointed.html">Smallest Minority</a>. He posted a question to the <a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&#038;f=141&#038;t=841714">Shooting USA</a> forum over on AR15.com asking if they were going to cover the <a href="http://www.boomershoot">BoomerShoot</a> event that <a href="http://blog.joehuffman.org">Joe Huffman</a> puts on every year.</p>
<p>Scoutten&#8217;s reply was essentially that he doesn&#8217;t want to put those kinds of events on TV because it could alarm the anti-gunners!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my reply to him:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Scoutten:</strong> But our greater purpose is to do no harm to our gun rights, to put nothing on TV that could alarm the anti-gunners.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That, Jim, is the core of what is wrong with this country right now. Don&#8217;t alarm the other guys. Don&#8217;t do anything that might make them mad at us. Don&#8217;t publicly support anything that might make them dislike us. That kind of appeasement only leads to our side losing. We don&#8217;t have anything to hide! We are not second-class citizens! We do not have anything to apologize for, so why kowtow to them? </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t already understand that the anti-gunners hate us and our gun sports then you will never get it. They have no reason behind their attitudes, it is all emotion. There is nothing we can do to convince the majority of them that being pro-gun is the right philosophy. </p>
<p>Who is your audience anyway? Is it the anti-gunners? I highly doubt that. Who buys all the products you advertise and review? Not the antis, that&#8217;s for sure! </p>
<p>Thanks for your show, but you are way off track in only covering events that the antis would approve of. I must say that I am very disappointed in you. </p>
<p>Maybe you should add a disclaimer at the start of the show &#8216;This show should be in no way construed as supporting guns, gun rights or gun sports that may alarm or challenge your sensibilities&#8217;. </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.joehuffman.org/2009/03/11/QuoteOfTheDayJimScoutten.aspx">Joe Huffman</a>, <a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=23085">SayUncle</a>, <a href="http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/03/11/an-overabundance-of-caution/">Snowflakes in  Hell</a>, <a href="http://www.softgreenglow.com/wp/?p=7282">Random Nuclear Strikes</a> also have something to say about this.</p>
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		<title>OWVA Prepares to Litigate Against Western Oregon University</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2009/03/02/owva-prepares-to-litigate-against-western-oregon-university/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salem, Oregon—Today, the Oregon War Veterans Association (OWVA) publicly announced its decision to file a lawsuit against Western Oregon University (WOU) for its violation of the Second Amendment right to carry a gun and its decision to expel veteran Marine, Jeff Maxwell.  The university suspended Maxwell for a year upon discovering he carried a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Salem, Oregon—Today, the Oregon War Veterans Association (OWVA) publicly announced its decision to file a lawsuit against Western Oregon University (WOU) for its violation of the Second Amendment right to carry a gun and its decision to expel veteran Marine, Jeff Maxwell.  The university suspended Maxwell for a year upon discovering he carried a concealed handgun onto campus.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the rest of the story <a href="http://oregonwarvets.typepad.com/owva_blog/2009/02/owva-prepares-to-litigate-against-western-oregon-university.html">here on the OWVA blog</a></p>
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		<title>Literacy test for gun ownership a threat to civil rights</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2009/02/04/literacy-test-for-gun-ownership-a-threat-to-civil-rights/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Workman has a guest opinion up at The Tuscon Citizen today. 
One should not be required to obtain a license or pass a government-administered test to exercise any constitutionally-protected civil right. If the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s taught us anything, it is that all civil rights are sacred, one is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Workman has a guest opinion up at <a href="http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/opinion/109312.php">The Tuscon Citizen</a> today. </p>
<blockquote><p>One should not be required to obtain a license or pass a government-administered test to exercise any constitutionally-protected civil right. If the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s taught us anything, it is that all civil rights are sacred, one is no less important than another, and all of them are worth defending because a threat to one puts all rights in peril.
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<p>Dave Workman is senior editor of <a href="http://www.gunweek.com">Gun Week</a> as well as an excellent <a href="http://www.danddgunleather.com/">holster maker</a>.</p>
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		<title>CCW is now legal in National Parks!</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2008/12/05/ccw-is-now-legal-in-national-parks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, this is some merry news to end off the year with! The US Dept. of the Interior has changed its rules regarding the carrying of concealed weapons in the National Park System so that legally licensed individuals may now carry their weapons in the Parks.
The full news release is available from the doi.gov website. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is some merry news to end off the year with! The US Dept. of the Interior has changed its rules regarding the carrying of concealed weapons in the National Park System so that legally licensed individuals may now carry their weapons in the Parks.</p>
<p>The full news release is <a href="http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.html">available from the doi.gov website</a>. I think (IANAL) this becomes a law as soon as it is published in the Federal Register &#8212; which seems like a silly way to do things, but they are the Federal Government after all. They don&#8217;t have to make sense.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The Department believes that in managing parks and refuges we should, as appropriate, make every effort to give the greatest respect to the democratic judgments of State legislatures with respect to concealed firearms,” said Laverty.  “Federal agencies have a responsibility to recognize the expertise of the States in this area, and federal regulations should be developed and implemented in a manner that respects state prerogatives and authority.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I can only hope that this isn&#8217;t the last victory before the Obama administration starts stripping away our rights again.</p>
<p>The NRA has <a href="http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4251">an announcement</a> on this, as does <a href="http://www.ccrkba.org/pub/rkba/press-releases/ccw.parks.htm">the CCRKBA</a>.</p>
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		<title>Taurus PT1911 Range Report</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2008/11/09/taurus-pt1911-range-report/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am really liking this gun! I have about 300rds through it now and it shoots like a champ. I&#8217;m now to the point where I&#8217;d trust my life to it and carry it every day &#8212; which means I&#8217;ll have to get another Undershirt holster made since it won&#8217;t fit in the one for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really liking this gun! I have about 300rds through it now and it shoots like a champ. I&#8217;m now to the point where I&#8217;d trust my life to it and carry it every day &#8212; which means I&#8217;ll have to get another Undershirt holster made since it won&#8217;t fit in the one for the Kimber. I continue to have some problems anticipating recoil so I&#8217;m hitting low to the left as usual.</p>
<p>I went to the range with a couple of friends yesterday. It was pouring down rain, but thanks to the cover at the <a href="http://gunsafety.org">Kitsap Rifle and Revolver Club</a> we were dry. Lots of fun was had with the Ruger Mark III. The only problem there is that the 10 round mags are just too small. The AR-15 worked like it was supposed to, with the exception of a couple of rounds of Radway green that didn&#8217;t fire the first time.</p>
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		<title>Derek Zeanah Hijacks The High Road</title>
		<link>http://www.libertynews.org/2008/10/04/derek-zeanah-hijacks-the-high-road/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The High Road, one of the largest pro-gun websites has been hijacked by its hosting provider. The hosting provider, Derek Zeanah owner of WellBuiltNetworks.com, was asked to change the domain registration from its original owner, Rich Lucibella, to the forum&#8217;s actual owner and moderator Oleg Volk. He instead changed the ownership to himself and locked [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thehighroad.org">The High Road</a>, one of the largest pro-gun websites has been hijacked by its hosting provider. The hosting provider, Derek Zeanah owner of WellBuiltNetworks.com, was asked to change the domain registration from its original owner, Rich Lucibella, to the forum&#8217;s actual owner and moderator Oleg Volk. He instead changed the ownership to himself and locked out many of the admins who disagreed with him.</p>
<p><a href="http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2008/09/controversy-at-high-road.html">Background by an original moderator</a></p>
<p>Mr. Lucibella says:</p>
<blockquote><p>At no time was I aware that Derek was acting as anything but Oleg&#8217;s personal agent. Had I been aware that Derek was acting for his own benefit I would never have transferred the domain name to him. It is my position that Mr. Zeanah had fraudulently misrepresented himself to me. If he persists in publicly hiding behind my statements, taken out of context, I will have little choice but to join this legal fray, recover the domain name thru the courts and pursue Mr. Zeanah for my legal fees.
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<p>Here is <a href="http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/474369.html">Oleg&#8217;s request for support</a> and an <a href="http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/477181.html">Update from Oleg</a> where it appears that Derek Zeanah has also hijacked Oleg&#8217;s <a href="http://www.armedpolitesociety.com">Armed Polite Society</a> forum as well. At this time it is in maintenance mode and still pointing to the same server that hosts The High Road forum.</p>
<p>This Derek Zeanah guy gives IT people a black eye. His job is to host the site, not try and steal it from its rightful owner. He has a hosting company, wellbuiltnetworks.com, and if you are a customer of his or thinking about becoming a customer I&#8217;d look elsewhere. Unethical behavior like this is bound to carry over into the rest of his business dealings.</p>
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